Hylander/Widowmaker WWIIOL update

DOH! I had hyperlinked the thread instead of pics.
Forgot, w/o account, you can't view....


These are 4 of many....

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http://gophur.playnet.com/gophur/gop...hots/berm1.jpg

http://gophur.playnet.com/gophur/gop...hots/berm8.jpg


From Gophur:

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1941

The release of v1.8 will include the vehicle set for 1941. This release will also have new terrain included. In the past this would intimate a map reset. We are planning to break that routine by introducing new terrain with this map while keeping the current map state. Ideally we hop to have not only CP ownership, but also facility state and FB state saved when the server restarts. This may be over optimistic but we expect that at a minimum CP ownership will not change after the patch. This will allow us to place the 1941 vehicles into the spawn lists while continuing the current war. So, the 1941 vehicles will be introduced into the ongoing live server at approximately 5 weeks past the start of the map, conforming to our original plans for ’41 vehicle set introduction. Once we have v1.8 released we have some new dynamics to introduce that will allow the High Commands and the players more direct control of which vehicles will be introduced and when. We are not ready to announce our plans here so I’d prefer not to answer questions on this matter but I wanted to make you aware that there will be some interesting news after 1.8.

Terrain

With the release of v1.8 we will be adding some new fidelity to certain areas of the terrain. Players will now find that several tree lines and roadsides have increased foliage cover. This increase is in what are now the 2d tree lines and shrub lines. In addition to these we have added a variety of small berms and hills to the farm areas in the terrain. These will provide an increase to both cover and concealment and offer some very interesting changes to fighting in the field. We will be working to add more of these unique terrain features into the future releases for WWIIOL.

.fuse (1.00 to 6.00)

Anti-aircraft weapons will now have the ability to set the time delay on their shecks. The delay can be set is from one to six seconds. This delay is the number of seconds after firing that the sheck will detonate. If no fuse time is set the round will function as it currently does and detonate at its default time out.

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From Toto:

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Friday Infantry Update 03-07-2003:

One word for you all: BETA!

That’s right, current functionality has been replaced in the BETA. I had to do some repairs on the German trooper today, but he’s finished and back in.

What does this mean for the public release? Well, after they have went through some stages of testing, fixing, tweaking, and we are satisfied with them, they will make it into the public offering.
NOTE: Initial implementation is a replacement of CURRENT public functionality. The new features will come on a regular basis afterwards. We (Thunder and Toto) already have a quasi-feature list for the patch following the 1.8 release. Of course, this has to be approved by others, but I am sure you will all like it.

I am relieved to have the baseline complete and I’m really looking forward to getting all that FUN stuff in the game.

Questions:

Can we get a look at the faces for the new inf models?
Yep, take a look at the in-game screenshots that Doc was kind enough to snap for me and pass on to you fine people. We had some trouble with the German LOD’s, hence the reason there are no screenshots of him.

Will the infantry "at rest" state be in 1.8?
No…not initially. It will follow very soon afterward. I do mean soon.

Will the game not support the player being able to select weapons via the scroll wheel on our mouse like all other FPS's?
It doesn’t right now because we do not have a previous or next weapon function in the game. Why? Is that something you think a lot of players might want? I hear it’s not that tough to add.

Will squads be able to design/import their own shoulder sigs or will you give a list to choose from?
This is still being discussed. I would like to be able to let squads, brigades, whatever, design their own under a strict set of parameters. Like I said, this is still being discussed.

Will there ever be a uniform for commanders of a squad?
We want to have distinctive uniforms for officers and the like, how far down on the “to-do” list that is though, I have very little clue.

What is the possibility of having some kind of "PLAY DEAD" button or control where an infantry unit could use this funtion when fired upon to doop the attacker into thinking he is dead?
Well, this particular idea to help the survivability of our brave infantry has never been discussed. I can tell you that we have a few things in the works to help the survivability of the troops in the field.

Have you guys thrashed out a list of what's gonna get added post initial release and further on down the line or is most of it still 'up in the air' so to speak?
We have! Now, if I can relay that list to you all is something I will find out this week. If I can, I will post it for you in the next update.

CIAO


Toto

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Also, the Windhund have gone French for the current map by request....

allors! aujourd'hui nous sommes les Levrier

Maybe you should reactivate your accounts with 1.8? Give it a shot at least....

I can see vertical tearing in those pictures (inside joke)

I may do it.

I actually re-activated my account about 2 months ago, but haven't played since. I was thinking of cancelling again simply because I don't have the time to play it right now.

Maybe if they would allow us as allies to shoot the French, it might be interesting enough to play. ;)

http://www.francestinks.com

Wrong answer!

Get back in the game!

I let my account lapse a while back. But I'll be starting it up again to give a shot at it... "soon". The only complaint I realy had last time I played was that everything, especialy infantry and planes, was warping so much that I could not get a good shot at anything.

All I can say is wow!

It's like a whole new game. Those that own should give it another go round...

netcode = less warping (a lot less) and more hits.
inf animations
1941 vehicle set.

WOW!

5 nights of 4 hour nights of WWIIOL

I was reminded by my wife last night when I threw one of my 'not enough space' fits, I threw my copy of it out. So I have no way to install it again.

oh well. Raven Shield anyone??

Raven Shield it is.

Squid, if you like strats, then WWII is your game. The strategy is what keeps me going back...

ask gunny to borrow his copy at the next lan party. Of course it is $12/month

Stitch, you don't need the CD. The 1.6 patch rewrote EVERYTHING so the CD was only good as far as the code to create an account. Go to their downloads page and you can download the full install of version 1.81. This is the full game, no CD required.

I have heard great things about this patch. I expect I am going to try it out again this weekend sometime.

I own WWII Online... not really interested in taking it up again just now.

I'll be on, .m me Porter99.

I'll be in France.

Squid, you should be interested. We can get 50 people to flow through an attack....

Chooz... I have 50 games I'm playing right now... I don't need 51. :)

I'm thinking seriously about taking this one up. I'm between games right now. Putting WWII and strategic depth together is very appealing.

Wid, did I understand you correctly that I wouldn't have to buy a disk at all? Just pay online and download a file?

Nay, Leo. You still need to buy a disk to secure an account code. But once you have the code you can toss the disk. You will need to download the whole thing anyway since a code change back during the 1.6 patch completely rewrote the code. They have been struggling with their publishing company (strategy first) but they are not allowed to sell account codes on-line except for out of country customers. Realy stupid if you ask me. They ought to sell you a code for 10 or 12 bucks and let you download it and get first month free, at least that's what I think.

On a side note I did re-activate my account this weekend and I must say WOW! Once I got the sound set right (64 sounds and selected my soundblaster LIVE! instead of the primary sound driver) my framerates are pretty good, still go low in battles but still pretty good. Warping is much reduced. The new terain is fantastic, bumps in the ground for infantry to take cover behind.

I don't know when they added the new lighting effects but it makes night time attacks quite amazingly realistic. All in all the game is great now, and they finaly added in unit counters so you know how much of each piece of equipment is available. Much needed ever since the included all unit attrition.

Allies finaly have ground attack capable aircraft and cannon armed fighters. They are scaring the luftwaffle pilots.

For some reason after activating my account I lost my squad membership. Oh well, if I feel like going back to the 3rtr I'll contact Ish. As it is I play very little due to some real life activities so I'm doing the lone wolf thing. Trying out the dark side (axis) of late for the heck of it. I'm a PFC again there so no good units are available to me, and I am a long way to getting binoculars for my infantry persona.

And sorry, Hylander, you still can't get a Matty no matter who you offer to sleep with. Unless you want to take an hour and drive one up from the rear.

just got off another 3 hour WWIIOL fiesta.

PM me in game when you guys are on, I don't know your handles. Mine is Porter99.
Currently fighting for the Armee Francais.

maybe

I've given up on you Rocks.:D

Just got done with another session of WWIIOL. Man, I love this new version of it. The grapics are way better, bomb explosions are INTENSE, got to love the shockwave effect and the small mushroom cloud the 250Kg german bombs leave. High explosive ammo seems to me to be more effective than it used to be. I am seem to be getting killed by apparent misses more than I used to, I am playing inf lately.

Among other things I just got through with a two hour session of defending a french FB from almost constant german bombardment, the sapper only FB rule makes things much more interesting at the FB. Was going well till planes started strafing us. I was never happier to see friendly air there. WWIIOL is actualy worth playing now, and more.

I've been playing French since they are getting TROUNCED but hard and look like they need bodies. Armor gets attritioned so fast that it is hard to get, german air is murdering us. I watched, Spincourt I think, go down under one of the largest assaults I have ever seen. When you get pinned in your army base bunker and the call goes out that 1, 2, 4, 8, 10, no 12 PZ's just entered the gate you feel sunk. Down to nothing but infantry it was a literal meatgrinder. Was the most fun I ever had loosing.

The screen shake they added for explosions realy realy adds to the tension when you are inside a bunker just waiting for the inevitable rush. Then a couple HE111's let loose with their Shock and Awe campaign and killed me through the wall. At that point no one could get out of the (now concrete, finaly) infantry spawn. We had at least 20 guys trapped in there. Making the occational suicide run to lob grenades hoping some could get through to the bunker to reinforce. It was obviously a lost cause.

It was an intense night. I like this new game of WWIIOL!

That sounds pretty cool!

Isn't it awesome?

With the map reset, Windhund went back to the dark side. Last night I spawn a Panzer IV (What the hell, you never see those) and another PZ IIIf and 5 inf went to town. On exiting the Foward Base, I startled 2 French sappers. One ran in front of me, so I ran him over and kept going, spun the turret and machine gunned the other in the back.

On the way to town, we eliminated a char, and all of the MG and Anti-Tank AI in town. We approached for the initial cap to contest when the call for "Porter, Panhard LEFT!" rung out. I immediately hit reverse and scan. He tracks me with 5 volleys, and then moved in for the kill.

Our 7 person assault wasn't a success, but with the AI eliminated we paved the way for the rest of "unserer deutsche Brüder" to cap Mouzon, and shift the attack to Buzanzcy.

For the people who own the game, I highly encourage you to resubscribe for a month, or use my account to test it all out. For those who haven't purchased it, if you love strategy with a bit of FPS when the battle begins, you'll enjoy this.

Remember, if you want to .m me, I'm Porter99 in game....

How does AI work in that game? Does it handle all/most of the defense?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by [AK]Widowmaker
I've been playing French

I do believe this is sufficient reason to kick him out of the August Knights.



:D

Depending on city size there will be numerous Antitank AI in "mounds" and MG AI in towers. There are also 1+ AI MG nests inside the AB.

The AT AI will target any non infantry, non air vehicle, i.e. trucks, tanks, halftracks, artillery, etc.

The MG tower AI will target infantry

The MG nests will target infantry AND air, and is "uber accurate".

The AI handles approx 20% of the defense I'd say, but is better used as "recon". If you sit in or watch the tower AI, you can watch it track Enemy Infantry.

All AI can be destroyed by tank rounds, sappers, grenades, I've even shot it (but that was some time ago).

This is where teamwork is key. For example:

Windhund is a multi-national, combined arms unit.
We have the following regiments: Recon, Infantry, Armor, Artillery, StuG, and Luftwaffe.

The Recon unit scouts for best approach, and when the go signal is given, destroys AI on that side and scouts the AB for spawning units.

The Armor then moves in, under Artillery support to destroy enemy armor, and MG the enemy infantry. The infantry regiment sticks close to the armor for cover and to keep enemy sappers from destroying our armor.

the StuG unit provides close infantry support through bombardment.

The Air unit provides cover as best it can from enemy air until our infantry destroys the AI MG nest in the AB. Then the BomberGrüppe begins the massive bombing to soften the target.

Currently, there is a 10 minute timer for the bunker radio (equivalent to a flag in BF1942). When a town's CP is captured by the attacker, the town becomes contested, and "resupply" is cut off. Meaning what you have to spawn is all you get. After 10 minutes of "contested status", the radio in the Army Base bunker is active, when that is taken, the town changes hands.

It's complex and lengthy. Teamwork and communication is key. Working alone only gets you killed.

I have a passion for this game not found in any other game because of the strategy factor.

Is there still a monthly fee? I know for a while they dropped it...

it was only dropped for the until Nov 2001, I believe it is currently 12.95/month, but I'll play for hours after AK mayhem. So to me it is worth it.

Yes, there is still the montly fee of 12.99. But if you can find the game for purchace (I have not seen it for a while) it is usualy 10 bucks and the first month is free. That 12.99 fee is realy not much and even if it turns out you don't like the game you have not invested a lot of money. I am still suprised they have not offered account keys for purchace online since you can download the entire game.

Edit: I just remembered you can download the game and at least play with it offline so you can get a feel for stuff and decide if you like it enough to buy (then you don't have a lot to download when you do get your account key, setting up your account can be confusing since you have to do it through the webpage). The offline mode will at least let you play with all the units with lots of target ranges to practice on, I have practiced hours with small arms before to get a hang of sites and ranges (no crosshairs in this game). I believe there is even live AI emplacements somewhere offline to play with.

There was no monthly fee at launch and they did not charge a fee till like version 1.3 which was several months later. But now they charge the fee and the game realy is worth it. If you looked at the launch release and as it stands now it is a completely different and much better game.

And Hylander... Mangez merde et mourez :D

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Originally posted by [AK]Widowmaker
And Hylander... Mangez merde et mourez :D

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El francés es un ramo de Wusses Liberal con rayas amarillas abajo sus espaldas! :D

I'll be downloading this tonight, if I like what I see, I may play online for a month or two.

Graphicaly it is nothing spectacular. But it is far different now than it used to be (the blobs for trees and golf field expanses with zero cover, I hated those days). So the graphics put a lot of people off.

The magic comes into play when you are in a battle with people from all over. You see there is only one server, one world, one war. When the war ends and the Axis are about to drink tea in England then it resets (the Allies don't win often). The landscape is a one half scale model of Europe and you can fly from england to the alps if you so like (and people HAVE done it, takes a long time). Many thousands of people can be online at one time so when you are fighting in one city you can get reinforcements from another type of thing, totaly open environment. I believe the veiwable distance is 2km?

So in other words it is hard to judge just from graphics alone. Also the infantry model will seem "stiff" if you are used to other FPS since they put a lot of emphasis on realistic balistics and such but not so much on fluid movement, again it is still much improved over what it used to be. But the fact that every bullet has proper balistics is an incredible feat, right down to bullet drop at range and weight of the shot. You can not expect to be an expert marksman without practice even if you are used to FPS's.

Pay close attention to settings, this baby is a memory and processor hog. Try not to use "3d sounds". Also there are many many controls since they did attempt to make a true simulator out of it you have many things to learn. That also puts a lot of people off since too much realism can mean boredom, and boredom does indeed happen. Just like in real life army, hurry up and wait. One thing to watch for in the controls is the joystic mapping by default sucks to me. I put my shift up and down and my reverse toggle controls on the joystick for land units and changed the throttle from "push the joystick forward" to my throttle control. At least all this is also much much easier to do than it used to be.

The pace is much slower than the franticness of BF1942 or Tribes and online you will experience much frustration but it just makes those successes so much more rewarding if you stick with it. The game is not for everybody but that is for each individual to decide.

Name online is "reynark". I do wish they had a friends list ala Everquest.