New PC Time

I was able to get enough cash together to build a new PC. I should have all the parts by Thrusday hopefully. I got all my parts from www.newegg.com They have a great track record and a few of the guys here have bought stuff from them. So I felt very safe picking them.
Here is what I ordered.

1 P4 2.8Ghz 800mhz 478p/1mb (yes it has 1mb cache)
1 ASUS P4P800 Deluxe (I love Asus boards!)
2 512mb PC3200 Memory Modules (Dual Channel DDR baby!)
1 WD 74Gb 10K 8mb Raptor SATA Drive (The best drive out there)
1 Enermax 420w Noisetaker Powersupply (To power all my Fans)
1 Chieftec Blue Server w/window ATX Case (Alienware style case)
1 Sony 1.44mb Floppy drive (yippee)

I have the other parts to complete it. I have a DVD burner, and a ATI 9600XT to put into it. I can hardly wait to turn all the details up to High on BFV!!

Sorry Rocks, I know I let you down by not getting a AMD64. But I just can't sway from Intel. I fear the dark side.

what are you doing with the old one?

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Originally posted by [AK]Choozoo
what are you doing with the old one?

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I was going to make it my super VMware Linux server. But I will sell parts for cash if there is a interest. I'll put a list together of what I currently have running.

Make sure you get a new mousepad for that new system.

Remember: you've got a reputation to live up to. ;)

Dont worry about newegg. They are a great site. Only place I buy from.. I just built a company comp from scrach and all parts came from newegg. Had everything in 2 days and had 0 problems. We bought 2 74g raptors and I was just amazed at how fast those bad boys are. Installed on a Asus p4800 e deluxe. I think it only took 11 minutes to fully install xp and im sure that was limited to the cd rom speed. Incredibly fast dude. Your going to love it.. Wish I had the money for a few raptors :(

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Originally posted by [AK?]FiGHT*CLuB
Dont worry about newegg. They are a great site. Only place I buy from.. I just built a company comp from scrach and all parts came from newegg. Had everything in 2 days and had 0 problems. We bought 2 74g raptors and I was just amazed at how fast those bad boys are. Installed on a Asus p4800 e deluxe. I think it only took 11 minutes to fully install xp and im sure that was limited to the cd rom speed. Incredibly fast dude. Your going to love it.. Wish I had the money for a few raptors :(

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WOW, that's cool that you got most of the same parts! I also found that you own that busty mousepad fight club mouse pad
the Raptor hard-drives have a 20$ or 50$ rebate on them right now. Did you look to see if you qualify for it? that would be a extra 50$ in your pocket..

lol How did you get a pic of my custom mouse pad..

I just checked and I bought everything on 02/25/2004 :( Rebate started on 3/10/04. You had my hopes up there for a minute. Isnt that how it always works out. You buy something and the next time you see it, its ALLWAYS cheaper....

Sounds good Stitch now you will be able to TK in style, now only if they could fix the ATI lag issue

New Egg really is the deal. I've been slowly buying parts for my new computer, waiting for sales and rebate offers, and I've got to say, New Egg is the best place to shop. Quick, reliable, and great prices.

nice system specs dood! Should be a rockin rig. BFV looks waaay cool at highest details but brings any card on the market to its knees, even my highly overclocked FX5900. Just a heads up so yah dont get overly disappointed. Overclocking that 9600 to the max would help im sure. otherwise your system should be a smoker! its just that BFV is very tough on the vid.

NV40 and RV420 coming soon! Mid april or so.

True, I won't get my hopes up too high for BFV, that 3D engine is a strange one. But as far as access time that Raptor drive is gonna Smoke!

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But as far as access time that Raptor drive is gonna Smoke!

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Yes, that should shave at least 4 seconds off of your map loading time. :)

It seems to me that the two primary drivers for BFV performance are CPU and system memory.

Far Cry is a different matter altogether.

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Far Cry is a different matter altogether.

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Yeah I'm still looking for a Jungle 3D chip to handle it. :)

You could have had an AMD 64 3400+ for what you paid for the P4!!! You must be rolling in the dough!

BFV is most certainly vid card limited. Raising my cpu speed and FSB from 414 to 440 did nada but throwin a few more MHZ at the FX5900 was very noticable. currently running it at 454/946 from 400/850.

Them raptor sound sweet. I wouldnt mind getting a couple myself! I do have a sata Raid chip on my current board. i wonder how much faster it would be loading wise. Like to hear bout your results anyway.

I did come across a budget A64 comparison of sorts where the dood used sata raptors and he was sitting in winxp 7 minutes after first BOOT. :eek:


http://www.flickerdown.com/stewks/ar...p?articleId=52

my custom XP pro SP1a installed in just under 10minutes!!!! That raptor is a wild monster of a drive. Things are installing super quick. I will be ready for the match very soon!!!

Dagum thats fast!! and your not even running raid! wowsers

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BFV is most certainly vid card limited. Raising my cpu speed and FSB from 414 to 440 did nada

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Marginal overclocks are hardly conclusive. Try the same video card in a 2.6 GHZ machine with 512 Meg and a 3.02 GHZ machine with a gig of memory.

512 to 1 gig of course that will make a diff, 2.6 to 3.2 some to that was assumed already

my overclock from 414 to 440 207 to 220 in bios is actually a 6.5% overclock via FSB speed and CPU if i dont change multiplier. in this case 207x11 = 2277 220x11 = 2420 not to mention about 200mb's more mem bandwidth.


what im referring to is with most of us already (and now stitch) running fast CPU's and high FSB's with more than 512 ram the vid card seems to be the limiting factor.

i cant play in the match and im bored so lets talk cards:

9600pro is 4x1 pipes

9800pro is 8x1 pipes

5900 is 4x2 or 8x1

just for fun nv40 is to be 16x1! and ATI 420 is to be 12x1 supposedly

the higher clockspeeds help the 9600pro out a bit 4 pipes @ 400mhz = 1600 fillrate compared to an 9800pro @ 350x8 = 2800mpixels! this is why overclocking the 9600 becomes very effective. gets it to 9700 pro fillrates if you can hit close to 500 core speed. 9700pro 300x8 = 2400 so close at least. ALso the RV350 core has some nice enhancements over the older r300 cores which helps a good bit specially with mem bandwidth and dx9. Now my formula is basic but if u care to it check it out its close enough.

even with my card pushing almost 3700 fillrate i can greatly notice FPS improvements or reductions depending on graphic settings in game or global. Crank in game graphics up to HIGHest and u will see what i mean. To get competitive FPS at 1280x960 i have to run performance settings and very little Anisotropy with medium to high in game. Competitive for me is 70-100.

Now of course im not taking shaders and other factors into account. but the general conclusions do apply. seems to me 9600pro has to be tweaked a bit to enjoy decent FPS at a reasonable res say 1024x768. Tweaking global D3d settings to performance on Hardnoks highly overclocked 9600pro yielded good results for 1024x768.

bottom line tho BFV @1600 x 1200 with medium graphics even on 5900 or 9800 not to much fun less u like dying alot.

NAM is the First game ive played lately to finally put a hurting on me card to be honest
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I've got the game maxed out with my ATI 9700 pro and I notice no lagging or performance hits at all (on my 3ghz/1gig box.)

As always YMMV when it comes to these things.

maybe after they patch the game and those controls actually work on ati cards u will see what im seeing ;)

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maybe after they patch the game and those controls actually work on ati cards u will see what im seeing ;)

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http://www.husted.cc/miscitems/BFVATI.gif


The controls seem to be working fine on my system. ;)

The game works wonderfully for me with a card that's more than a year past it's prime. I'm talking - smooth as silk.

Not sure why I'd want to patch to "see what you're seeing"... :)

the in game detail sliders dont appear to work on ATI cards is what some guys were saying man. I could be wrong no worries =)

Nothing wrong with the 9700pro either dood great card actually 8pipes is the main thing i think BFV needs for optimal play, 16 would jus be heavenly. When yah crank the in game slider to highest the game looks fantastic but its a lil slow at high res for my taste.

If your card does work @ highest details smoothly and is most playable then im curious why a few 9600 pro doods are not happy with FPS even at lower settins hmm.

we should compare some screenshots see if the in game details are similar.

My sliders work. Screenshots are static so they don't really prove much other than how pretty that one frame was.

http://squidly.com/1942/cablestich.JPG

Nice cabling there, Stitchypoo... :D

I also like the baby-blue color... soothing... ;)

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Nice cabling there, Stitchypoo... :D
I also like the baby-blue color... soothing... ;)

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<bad>Damn you Bribo! </bad>

You forgot to tell Squidly I wasn't done with my sweet Cable Managment skillz! I do have to apologize for the 'bad hair day' pc that you see in the picture above. I just wanted to get it working before I spent two plus hours getting the cables just right to then have to tear it apart if something was wrong. You guys will get a nice set of pictures this weekend!

<bad> Damn you Bribo! </bad>

I DID tell him you weren't done. :)

I think the blue is just right for you, Poppa Smurf. ;)

Looks like a bowl of pasta gone bad...

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Looks like a bowl of pasta gone bad...

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AARRRGGHHHHH damn you bribo!

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Originally posted by [AK]StitchJones
AARRRGGHHHHH damn you bribo!

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Payback's a bitch. ;)

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Payback's a bitch. ;)

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Here's a Quarter, go downtown and have a rat naw that thing off your face

Take another look at that picture Stitch. A little buddy has moved into the warm inviting home you've set up.

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Take another look at that picture Stitch. A little buddy has moved into the warm inviting home you've set up.

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I don't like you. Not one bit......... :)

What? He looks so nice and furry! When he's bored tonite he'll crawl out of there and snuggle up with your toes.