Check out what Moon wrote above (it'll save me the work of repeating it).Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Slaughter
Yeah, but why get a Celeron when you can get a AMD that can run with the same speed P4 for the same price?
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Check out what Moon wrote above (it'll save me the work of repeating it).Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Slaughter
Yeah, but why get a Celeron when you can get a AMD that can run with the same speed P4 for the same price?
AMD 3000+ about $340 and P4 $468 on Pricewatch. Anyway, if there was only 20 dollars in price differents, then go with Intel or don;t. But that extra 100 bucks can get you healed of Processor Envy.
the main reason why pentium 4 tend to be slower than amd is simply few benchmarks that support sse2 functions. amd chips do not have sse2 instructions at all, so sse1 functions are all optimized, giving the amd chips a greater speed in the present time.
it's really a matter of preference. have speed right now and upgrade later (amd), or get full potential of the processor in the near future (intel).
As long as the games play fine then who the hell cares?
I don't make my buying decisions based on $100 difference in price - but I suppose it just comes down to where each individual sets his mark.Quote:
Originally posted by [AK?]Rocks
AMD 3000+ about $340 and P4 $468 on Pricewatch. Anyway, if there was only 20 dollars in price differents, then go with Intel or don;t. But that extra 100 bucks can get you healed of Processor Envy.
My wife will drive for hours price comparing shoes or something and end up saving 20 bucks. Meanwhile she'll have spent that much or more in gas, lol.
In general (and my last experience was with a T-Bird 1000), I have found Intel products to be more stable, less difficult to configure and generally easier to work with than AMD. I think this is more due to the motherboard platforms than the processors themselves, though. In support of previous posts - the motherboard makes ALL the difference.
The worst time I ever had building a computer was with an AMD K6-2 350, which nearly drove me mad. The T-Bird was a lot easier to deal with (it's on a pretty good ASUS board), but nothing is as smooth and easy as an Intel processor on an Intel board. I like the auto-shutdown built into Intel processors also.
My current processor is a Pentium IV 1.993 gHz O/C'd to 2.666 gHz, and it is running great (about 38 degrees Celsius under load). My only configuration problems with it were due to the motherboard I had to buy (a $59 AOPEN AX4T II). Those were fixed with a BIOS flash.
Anyway, that's my $.02. Go for the best motherboard you can afford, whichever processor you use.
Sure, and there are even cheaper AMD solutions.. but I don't want to be running a Duron 500mhz system either! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by [AK]Squidly
As I said, if you want a cheap Intel solution, they exist.
There are two parts to the equation for Price/Performance and dropping to the cheaper Intel solutions reduces the Performance part of the equation in comparison to the AMD at that same price point.
I don't need to spend that extra $100 or $200 right now to be on the bleeding edge because I know just about every 6 to 9 months I will be rebuilding the system anyways whether it's just a CPU upgrade (no matter who the manufacturer is - Hell, look at the new Intel 875 / Canterwood that increases its bandwidth to 6.4 GB/s through Dual DDR400. Rambus is now bye bye.), video card, or entire system platform upgrade. My current system has lasted me about as long as I've ever gone without rebuilding because I haven't had the extreme "need" to upgrade. Sure, I upgraded to a Ti4600 and I went up to 1024mb of DDR and an Audigy sound card... but I've had this Epox 8KHA+ for almost 7 or 8 months now (if I remember correctly :D ) and I'm still not feeling the 'need' to upgrade even though I'd love to go nForce2.
Besides, I still have purchased the wife a replacement system yet. I'll probably buy a notebook / desktop replacement but I'm waiting for the new mobile Radeons and Nvidia chips to hit the market first.
Rocks at least my mobo never committed suicide rather than be in a box with an AMD procesor.:tongue:
I don't understand the political/religious style of fervor. Some of you want to burn down the opposition's company. Why is competition so difficult to understand? It's not rocket science but it is the foundation of our country.
If I'm only getting 200 FPS and you're getting 300 FPS, how do we see the difference without running a test program? Apparently bragging rights is everything. ;)Quote:
As long as the games play fine then who the hell cares?
Ab is partly right on the stability issue but that gap is nearly closed except in the heat department. If you don't have a board that will kill the system in miliseconds and your cooling fails, it's BACON!!!
Buy what you want and leave the other company alone. Go buy a Ford or go buy a Chevy! You are not required to apologize. Just don't buy a car made in France or I might roll an incendiary device beneath it. Wait a minute! France doesn't make serious automobiles. ;)
The reason for the car analogy is it's the same thing. I grew up hearing about how Chevys were perfect and Fords were junk so guess what my first car was? My dad was convinced that FMC was contributing to communist organizations. Anyway I just wanted to stir him up and make him rant. There wasn't much to do in the small town I grew up in except late night backroad quarter mile run offs liberally mixed with alcohol. (Bad mix! Don't try this at home!) It always started the same way at the local hangout with, "Your Ford is a slug!", "No! Your Chevy is a piece of junk!" The only recourse was to go out and try to prove something.
Isn't it same thing? "I'm feeling superior because my AMD is faster than your Intel slug." If the Intel is a slug then how fast is the AMD? Isn't that uncharted waters?
Maybe I'll try an AMD sometime but it will be a while since the 3.06 is in the mail. Heh heh heh heh heh......:tongue:
There is hope. I have two GM products sitting side by side in the garage.
Is this thread done yet?
To be honest I just wanted to see how long this thread would get. Lets talk about Syria now... I could care less about AMD vs Intel. But Intel is helping syria with weapons of mass destruction. Discuss....
Intel says that AMD = WMD for Syria.
Think about it!
Hey, get this political crap out of my thread! :tongue:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/meas....sahaf.mon.jpg
"Iraq does not hide or have any Intel Processors! These are fabrications by the evil criminal infidel Squidly! Iraq loves it's glorious people and would never gouge them by making them purchase Intel processors!
The infidel Intel salesmen are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad, As our leader Saddam Hussein said, 'God is grilling their Intel platforms in hell.'"
http://www.jsonline.com/graphics/new...ings111102.jpg
Peter Jennings also has WMD's (I feel so grammatically wrong putting that "'s" there..), here we see him holding school children hostage while he holds a cup of chemical nerve agents in his hand. No one ever suspected the Canadians.